I was right into freestyle jetskiing and flipping around in the surf for years but since I started kiteboarding a couple of years ago the ski only gets pulled out a few times a year, usually because there's no wind to go kiteboarding (the last time I rode the ski I killed it over rotating a barrel roll in the surf :evil: ) If you want a real adrenaline rush give kiteboarding a go, I can't recommend it enough - huge air and scary as shit if things go wrong in the surf - I love it!!! :twisted: Check out the airtime these guys get on FLAT water - there's a good bit where they're riding alongside a car about halfway through: (13mb file) http://media.bestkiteboarding.com/videos/moving_on.wmv Here's some surf action - this guy makes it look easy - it's not - he's a team rider. The guy in the Kayak looks like he's having fun.. (9.8mb file) http://www.bestkites.pl/video/the_andy_show.wmv Dave